Kerry: "My health... I went from being a top racquetball player, women's racquetball player in the state, to I could barely walk. I was sleeping all the time. I was in a lot of pain, headaches.
(Kerry developed severe neurological symptoms) 
My system was just shut down. I couldn't think. I couldn't look at something with three words and take those three words and type it someplace else. I had to keep looking back at the one word and get that in. I mean, it was just so extreme. I couldn't remember anything and I was used to remembering things for years and that was gone.
It was just a struggle and I kept breaking everything because I thought it was there, but then when I would go to reach for that glass, I wasn't there and I would knock it over and it would break.
I mean, it was crazy. I went from this really healthy, athletic, you know, 'on the go, 24-7' type- person to I couldn't hardly get out of bed and I couldn't think.
I had no motivation. And so I remember calling and talking to, because I did some research and talking to your receptionist and she said, oh, you have to, you know, you have to do this first 15 minute consultation or whatever. And I said to her, I don't need that.
I already know that I have Lyme, I have all the symptoms and not just a little bit. And I just, we just need to get started."
Dr. Kyle Warren: "Yeah. I remember that.
The fatigue obviously just hits you because you went from being so active to down, but then you had all these nerve problems just were driving you banana. You were really aggravated with how frustrating your brain was.
I remember you saying -  'This is NOT Me!'"
Kerry: "That first day in your office and my husband was with me. He looked at the list of things for Lyme that was on your wall and he goes, 'she has every one of those (symptoms) ... I just want my wife back!'
You ran your initial test and you were just kind of like, without saying, wow, you're really sick. You're like, well, let's get the labs going right away and let's get this going right away. And then when the labs came back, you immediately called to schedule that first, you know, real appointment because I was so sick."
Dr. Kyle Warren: "We ran tests on you and got your test results. And pretty clearly, I think you had three, right? Did you have the classic three, the Lyme, Bartonella and Babesia?
That's kind of the big three. All your symptoms are really exaggerated.
And I remember your husband telling me 'I just want her fixed.' 
And so I was just, I was looking at you guys, like thinking back to my situation with my wife going, like, I have been the frustrated husband trying to be like, I just need to find someone who can help. This is not the person I've been with for so many years. 
Your husband said, 'this is just so foreign to who she is.'"
Kerry: "Yeah. It's, it's not her."
Dr. Kyle Warren: "Okay. So we found that we found it on the test, pretty clear. And then run me through, like, when did you start to feel better?
And how long did it kind of take? Because we're now, we're several years removed from when I first met you."
Kerry: "Yes. Yes. It was, it was a journey because I had so many different bugs.
You said, you know, we're going to start with a few of them and eliminate a few of them. You know, I would consider it the low hanging fruit to give you some quick wins and, but we can't do everything at once because I had a pretty extreme, you know, and they were all medium to medium high. And it was like, I did feel a difference within probably the first three, six months.
I mean, it wasn't huge, but at the same time, it was a difference."
Dr. Kyle Warren: "Right. Because we get that first retest usually around six months.
And I remember having that conversation because at that point we really only had, I would say very mild improvements."
Kerry: Yeah.
Dr. Kyle Warren: Improvement a little better. But as we said, at six months, it was still, I would use the word mild. Is that fair?
Kerry: Yeah. It was, I was still really sick and, and it was the only thing I could do was my job. And that was barely, I religiously took every one of those supplements and I could feel the progress.
I had a long way to go, but I could feel I was moving in the right direction.
Dr. Kyle Warren: Awesome. Like when did you start to get back to, you know, living life more where we made enough momentum to where, you know, more full speed at work and doing some of those activities? When did you kind of get to that point?
Kerry: At a year, I thought I was doing better because you know, I was a lot better than I was. But it really was about a year and a half. And I went, Oh, Oh, wow.
Look, I'm leaving the house. I'm able to work a full day and get some personal stuff done. And you know, I'm still not at full capacity, but I don't have to look at three words and try and remember them and actually write them down and then go back to where I'm trying to, you know, put that information in.
My life, I do a lot of proposals and spreadsheets and, I was finally able to carry the concepts mentally from one piece of information or document to another and just free flow. 
I was better and my husband and I took a trip to France. I still had to have my rest days, we couldn't go all out, but I was able to go on a trip and we had a great time.
Dr. Kyle Warren: But I remember you were nervous for that trip.
Kerry: I was, because, it's one thing to be sitting at my desk, but, but it's another to be out and about a full day. 
Dr. Kyle Warren: And that's often the last thing to come back is people after they're sick, right? You start to get the function back, but you can't, you can't do it all day or can't do it as long as you used to it. That's usually what takes the most amount of time.
And you're kind of a shining example that you got more and more function. Yeah. How are you now?
How's the stamina now? How, how much better are you now? Where are you at?
Cause this is now, gosh, are we two and a half years now? 
Kerry: I am like 90, 95%. Um, my brain is back. Like my old self I have multiple thoughts running through the head.
My output, you know, for work is, is amazing. I'm very creative and, I'm doing Pilates a couple of times a week. I'm at the gym lifting weights.
It's just such a difference. My hand swelling are gone and, um, my feet and, you know, ankles and, you know, all that swelling that was going on, is gone. And I remember what I did yesterday.
I remember what I did last week. I can remember a month ago. And, my long-term memory is back.
Dr. Kyle Warren: The memory is, if I'm remembering correctly, what really frustrated your husband?
Kerry: Oh yeah.
Dr. Kyle Warren: Because it was like, he was having conversations with you and he was like, we talked about this. And you were like, I have no, recollection. It was a huge frustrating point in your relationships.
Kerry: Yeah. I couldn't remember anything. 
Dr. Kyle Warren: And now that's so much better.
Kerry: I am there, which is amazing.
Dr. Kyle Warren: What was your experience with other health professionals when you were, not feeling well before we figured out it was Lyme and we started down this road, what did that look like?
Kerry: I saw my GP also went, you know, went to the emergency room at one point, I was having heart palpitations and, you know, all this stuff. And they put me on the three week Lyme, you know, drug. They're like, well, you don't, you're not testing positive, but we'll just put you on this anyway.
And the first week, you know, made a difference by the second week I was drifting back the third week. It was nothing. And that happened a few times I got put on that.
And, um, it was just nobody, you know, really could figure out what it was. They ran a bunch of tests and, you know, no, you look good. You are so healthy compared to the rest of the population.
And I am like, no, I am not. There is something wrong with me. Our healthcare system does not understand Lyme and all the co-infections and they can't test for it.
Dr. Kyle Warren: Yeah. Back in the day, I didn't either. Cause I missed it on my wife for years because I didn't know.
Most, most people are in this space. And you don't know that unless you get a personal experience, it opens your eyes.
It's one reason I'm so passionate about good testing because you're telling me you're not normal. Your husband's telling me you're not normal. You have all these crazy symptoms and then doctors go, you're perfectly fine on testing.
And it's like, no - We need to find it because obviously something dramatically is wrong. And, I often think running bad testing is even more misleading than just running no testing.
And you were an example. So they just really couldn't find anything on you. But I also want to highlight, they did the antibiotic several times on you and it really didn't work.
No, it wasn't working at all. The short answer is guys by then the antibiotics really their chance of working is very low, but most doctors don't know that. They don't know that it doesn't work when you, when you're three years late, it's just not, a three week course of antibiotics is not, not going to do it.
You were someone who I really wanted to do this because you do have Crohn's at the same time. 
And the proposition of taking multiple high dose antibiotics for a long time for someone who already has Crohn's is very hard on your gut.
Kerry: I knew it was going to be a challenge. The nutrition panel, along with the, what I'll just call the bug panel, you know, the different tests that you ran and tracking all of that and seeing what I was missing from my system and how I was absorbing because of the Crohn's. I never really got sick from the, like the herx or whatever that they call it.
I remember the wormwood like a year and a half into my protocol. It was a short period. It was needed to blow out one of those bugs. But that was probably the toughest one. And during that time you had me on, something that would keep my system feeling good, my belly. And like you said, we can't do it all at once.
So it was a process. As we got rid of some, we then attacked others. We gradually got to the really tough ones and all along making sure that my nutrition was good.
Dr. Kyle Warren: We were going, okay, this is probably going to slow you down though, which is what happens if I have someone who has Lyme plus some other condition. We tried to do things a little slower and methodically and as safe and careful as we could, you took a little more time than the average person. 
I thought it went as smooth as we could have hoped for really.
Kerry: It was a challenge and now my Crohn's feels like it's gone. I mean, I don't have the gut issues that I was having with the Crohn's because, and I think it's because of the balanced nutrition and, you know, the way that you approached it.
It's my system, my physical system is healthy.
Dr. Kyle Warren: Yes. Getting the food right and getting the bugs right and getting the nutrition right and getting all that right. And that's really what it is for so many people.
It's trying to put enough pieces together.
Kerry: The nutrition along with the staggered approach to eliminating the bugs and, healing the whole cell and not just getting rid of the bugs was huge.
Dr. Kyle Warren: Well, thank you. Is there anything you'd like to say to people who might be sick in seeing this? And remember kind of that, that feeling of, you know, kind of, it's a good word.
What would you say to those people who are still sick and maybe seeing this?
Kerry: Oh my gosh, I would, I would come see Dr. Warren because he can help you. And I was at my wits end trying to figure out what was wrong. And at the same time, I didn't experience the negative, you know, effects of that.
You can, that it can happen when you're getting rid of the bugs and you know, the, the bad stomach aches and all that kind of stuff. I am so grateful for Dr. Warren and, and, and his knowledge and his team. I'm back.
Dr. Kyle Warren: You're back!
Kerry: Yeah. I'm back!! And I am so delighted to be back and grateful for your help.
Dr. Kyle Warren: Thank you so much. Thanks for sharing your story and it's fun to see you better.